So last week's show was about The Empire Strikes Back, and we're interested to hear what YOU think about the movie. Is it the best of them all, or is it's reputation ultimately more than it can ever deliver?
Did you see the twist of Vader being Luke's father coming (spolier alert), or did it take you completely by surprise?
Is Lando a hero for saving the people of Cloud City, or a vilain for selling out his friend?
We must know, so tell us here and we'll read out your answers on this week's show!
Post by mylittleponfarr on Dec 11, 2015 2:27:53 GMT
Hi, guys! It was great to hear your thoughts about ESB, and since it's my favourite film of the series, I absolutely have to add my tuppence worth
Under the direction of Irwin Kershner, the film took on a dark tone that was never repeated in any of the other episodes (oh, to see what he'd have done with Revenge of the Sith...). He added a depth and danger to the Star Wars series that truly bought the universe to life, and made you realise that the Rebel cause was in real threat from the Empire- this leads to one of my favourite things about the film, in that you finally get to see how the Empire came to rule the Galaxy- namely by just using a sheer amount of brute force to get their own way:
There's a small band of fighters on an ice planet? Send fucking EVERYTHING. There's a small ship that we want hiding in an asteroid field? Send fucking EVERYTHING.
The film is called The Empire Strikes Back, and that's pretty much exactly what you get in the tin. The Empire is pissed, and it is NOT a good time to be a rebel. By the end of the film, just about every good character has lost in some way- well, all apart from that guy on Bespin who managed to save his ice-cream maker.
For the record, we all thought that Vader was pulling Luke's chain about his parentage, we didn't trust Lando after all the betrayals (and his eagerness to literally jump into Han's pants at the end of the film), and hands down, the asteroid chase was the absolute best space chase ever put on film.
Oh, and the Ice-cream Maker Guy actually got his own figure, thus proving that Star Wars collectors will buy just about anything.
Empire Strikes Back is the Best, and it's also my favourite (Episode 5,3,6,4,2,1 is my order in terms of preference).
As I said before my memory of Star Wars pre- the prequels is a little vague. My most vivid memory goes something along the lines of "Luke, I Am..." You know the bit that comes next. No I didn't see it coming.
Again coming out of the prequels, this it Yoda I found jarring. He's not much less than deadly serious 90% of the time (in the prequels), where as in Empire its more like the other way around.
Is Lando a hero for saving the people of Cloud City, or a villain for selling out his friend? a load of people to all intents and purposes play no real role in the grand scheme of things (and might as well not be there). VS A major character... Well I suppose you could say that Lando's motive give them a role, but that's just a minor detail, SELL OUT!
Last Edit: Dec 11, 2015 16:11:38 GMT by TheIceKing
I love the film, in that I love Star Wars the franchise, but to me it's very much a part of the whole and difficult to regard as a film in its own right. That said, it's head and shoulders above the bridging checklist that was Episode III. The character interplay is probably the best in the saga, providing a lot more emotional weight.
Unfortunately, I don't remember the first time I saw any of the original trilogy and can't even be 100% sure what order it was in, as I was so young, so I never experienced the shock of Vader's revelation or had to entertain any speculation about it. That's a shame, really; I hope the new movies drop some bombshells of a similar magnitude, to keep the Internet fuelled for a couple of years at a time. Otherwise, getting to experience the "I am your father" moment by proxy is one of the most compelling arguments I can think of for having children.
Finally, the music -- with Empire, John Williams really upped his game from plagiarising Holst to write what I feel is the best score of the saga to date. Fantastic accompaniment to action like the Battle of Hoth and the Asteroid Chase, plus increased use of leitmotif with signature tunes for Yoda, Vader, Boba Fett, Cloud City and Han & Leia's love theme. Also: best end credits closing fanfare (used in the Phantom Menace trailer and probably responsible for a lot of the excitement over that film's release). The whole piece, "Rebel Fleet and End Titles," is my favourite from the saga; it played over the menu screens in X-Wing Vs TIE Fighter and I used to sit there waiting to launch the mission until the music finished, every time.
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